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Dialogues
with The Dalai Lama
(Dialogues in Dalai
Lama Renaissance film)
© 2003 Corinne McLaughlin and Gordon Davidson

One of the most transforming experiences of our lives
was being invited to spend five days in dialogue with the Dalai Lama and
his government-in-exile in Dharamsala, India, as part of The Synthesis
Dialogues (organized by The Association for Global New Thought). To be in
the presence of His Holiness is to be held in a transformative energy
field, which catalyzed powerful life changes in everyone who
participated. We were invited to represent the field of politics in the
Dialogues, with other well known new thought leaders representing the
fields of science, business, education, health, media, the environment.
Each leader discussed with His Holiness the emerging new paradigm in
his/her field, the obstacles to its manifestation, and how to overcome
those obstacles.
Our Presentation to The Dalai Lama on Politics
“The leading edge in politics expresses in three areas: The first is
re-engaging citizens in their own democracy and eliminating the corrupting
influence of money in policy-making. The second is shifting from
win/lose adversarial politics to multi-stakeholder dialogues—bringing all
views and all parties to the table to find common ground and a higher
synthesis through listening deeply to other points of view. And
thirdly (an area that is most important to us) is opening public discourse
to explore the deeper spiritual issues underlying political problems, to
look at the collective lessons that we’re learning from political events,
and base decisions about public policies on universal, spiritual values,
ethics--and what we have in common. For in reality, we actually have
more in common than we have differences.
“It’s interesting that politics was one of the
last subjects we’re addressing in this Dialogue because in many ways
politics is the one subject that most people really don’t want to talk
about, because they’re disgusted with the process. Leaders today are
causing untold suffering for billions of people on this planet—we all know
that--and techniques for using the media for manipulation, for deceit, for
confusing the people rather than telling them the truth are rife in
politics. 65% of American people no longer vote because they are so
disgusted with the process. This is a victory for untruth. It is
extremely important that we develop a new kind of politics.
“The solutions that we see are in three areas: Spirituality needs to
be recognized as something that transcends religion, as you have so
clearly stated. In addition, we need new processes that help people
work through their differences by learning how to see the grain of truth
in their opponent’s point of view, and learning detachment from their own
point of view. And finally, we need to learn how to recognize the
true leaders who have spiritual awareness and commitment to the good of
all the people--who deeply care about what happens to the people they’re
leading. This ability to recognize selfless leaders will come when
we develop those qualities within ourselves. As the public develops
that consciousness, we will only select these types of leaders. We are
moving slowly in that direction.”
Compassion as the Key Solution
In our dialogues, our group focused on five key issues: the widening gap
between rich and poor, protection of the earth, education of our children,
helping Tibet and other oppressed people, and bringing spirituality and
compassion to all disciplines of life. His Holiness remarked that
all of the five issues fall under the last one. If we have true
compassion in our heart, then we will care for poor and oppressed people,
we will educate our children wisely, and we will care for the earth.
The Dalai Lama emphasized to us the importance of seeing the big picture
and looking with detachment on our problems. He himself demonstrated the
detachment of a great laughing Buddhist master who is wise enough not to
take anything too seriously--except his efforts to help others. When he
first came to meet our group, the Tibetans put on an elaborate welcoming
ceremony with singers, dancers, and a tea and rice ceremony. After all the
ceremony was finally complete, he put down his tea cup, and looked around
carefully at everyone in the audience with a bemused expression. Then he
burst into a long period of deep, heartfelt laughter that soon spread to
everyone in the room. He seemed to be saying “Isn’t this all laughable
–all this ceremony and formality? Don’t take it all too seriously.”
As the reincarnated leader of Tibetan Buddhism, The Dalai Lama is revered
around the world for his compassion and forgiveness, and is the recipient
of the Nobel Peace Prize. He is remarkably forgiving of the Chinese,
who have killed thousands of his people and destroyed the Tibetan culture.
“Despite all that has happened to myself and my people,” he says, “I
believe that human beings are basically good. It is only when we become
confused or fearful or angry, that we do terrible things,” he said. “So we
must watch ourselves very carefully, and not allow negative states to
influence us.”
We All Want to Be Happy
“All human beings want the same thing -- we want to be happy,” he
continued. “Yet we think that happiness comes from outer things, when it
really comes from within us. So we have to look very carefully at what
brings this inner happiness. And when we examine this, what we find – and
what all religious traditions have found -- is that making others happy is
what contributes most to our happiness.” This is such a simple yet
essential message, from such a powerful messenger.
“Our motivation is key—the overall state of our mind and heart,” he said.
“A true spiritual revolution entails an ethical revolution. We must
not just propagate our own religion, but rather explore how our religion
can contribute to the betterment of society.” He tells people from
around the world not to try to stop the invasion of western culture into
their country, but rather to strengthen the best in their own culture.
His Holiness demonstrated the most deep and profound listening to whatever
members of our group were saying. As participants shared with him
about new ideas emerging in each of our respective fields, we each
experienced being heard to an unprecedented depth. The name Dalai Lama
means “ocean of compassion,” and we all experienced directly what it means
for our being to be heard with vast and unlimited compassion and total
acceptance. The contrast with the usual modern style of short, quick,
half-there conversation was stunning.
Helping the Tibetans and the Chinese
One of our major dialogue topics was about what we, as Americans, could do
to help the Tibetan people. Many suggestions were given, but his response
to these was remarkable. First he said, “We cannot do anything that would
cause harm to the Chinese people! We must find a course of action that
will not only benefit the Tibetans, but will also benefit the Chinese.”
This was a stunning comment from the temporal and spiritual leader of the
Tibetan people who was driven from his homeland by the Chinese, who knows
1.2 million of his people (primarily lamas and other leaders) have been
killed, and the rest of the population is still being cruelly and
relentlessly oppressed. Yet we could all see that he holds no anger
towards the Chinese.
His Holiness also said that we must always be thinking for the long term
and looking for root cause solutions, rather than short term answers. In
his long term view of the issue, he sees that the causes for the current
suffering of Tibet “were set in motion a thousand years ago.” In fact, we
later discovered that in 821 China was invaded by Tibet. “It’s all cause
and effect, cause and effect,” he noted.
He also said that we must first be clear about our motive and intention
for taking any action towards the Chinese or anyone, and be reasonably
sure about the intended outcome. “Our motive must be harmless,” he said,
smiling. What a contrast to the modern western approach to action! To
consider motive and intention and the effects on others first, rather than
they being last on a list, was such a refreshing relief from “will it make
a profit” or “how will I benefit?”
Tibetan Spiritual Priorities
But his concern for the Chinese has much deeper roots in Buddhist
philosophy. A key member of the Tibetan government-in-exile shared how the
Dalai Lama has instructed them to arrange their political priorities:
“First you should identify yourself as a sentient being; second as a human
being; third as a Buddhist; fourth as the Tibetan people; and fifth as the
Tibetan political entity.” All actions must first be considered as
to how they will affect all sentient beings, then all human beings, then
all Buddhists, then all the Tibetan people, and lastly, how it will affect
politics. What a wonderful world we would have if these priorities were
even partially adopted by all nations!
Yet the most astonishing statement that we heard in our entire time with
the Tibetans was from this same lama. He said the Dalai Lama had told them
that if some action would clearly benefit the billions of Chinese, then
the Tibetans would be prepared to make a sacrifice, because their primary
identification is with all beings. Perhaps by the assimilation of the
Tibetans into China, the seeds of Buddhist compassion will eventually take
root within the Chinese people, and temper and balance their current
ruthless materialism.
Practices Recommended by The Dalai Lama
His Holiness suggested that we do a simple practice when we return home,
and share it with as many people as possible: Spend five minutes at
the beginning of each day remembering that all people want the same
thing—to be happy and to be loved, and that we are all connected to each
other. Then take five minutes to breath in, cherishing yourself, and
breath out, cherishing others. Then extend this attitude to everyone we
meet during the day—the important people in our lives, as well as causal
people we meet, but especially to people we don’t like.
The most powerful experience for us personally was a meditation with the
Dalai Lama in his private quarters, which ended with an ancient prayer
that our whole group said together. It somehow seemed deeply
familiar, although it was the first time we’d seen it. It ended with
this sacred pledge: “As long as space remains, as long as sentient beings
remain, until then, may I too remain, and dispel the miseries of the
world.”
The experience of these dialogues catalyzed some
interesting speculations for the two of us about politics and
spirituality in the West. In the West, many Christians, Jews and Muslims
expect the return of their greatest spiritual leader—the Christ, the
Messiah or the Imam Mahdi, respectively. If the highest soul in the
Buddhist tradition reincarnates to head the Tibetan government, why could
this not happen in Western culture? How far fetched would it be if, for
example, the Christ returned as a major politician, instead of a religious
leader….Imagine a President with true compassion and wisdom in America.
Why not?
Our experience with the Dalai Lama in India
brought home to us the impact that an enlightened political leader can
have on our world today. To us, the good news is that the Dalai Lama
is recognized for who he is—millions of people around the world revere
him for his compassion and wisdom. Isn’t it time for more spiritually
enlightened political leaders to emerge in all nations?
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